Jest takie powiedzenie; Rosja nigdy nie jest tak silna, na jaką wygląda, ani tak słaba, na jaką wygląda. Poza tym Cooper zapomniał dodać, że silniki są opalane węglem ekologicznym.
The primary role of the Su-57 will be air superiority, so most of the first part of the conflict it will be air to air mainly.
“Only later in the war would it be used against enemy air defence and ground targets… and in those missions it will be less stealthy with external pods for target detection.
A standard weapon it would carry is the internal model of the AS-11 in an updated form which has a range in excess of 200km for dealing with enemy radar and major SAMs.
For use against other target they have a range of guided bombs and glide bombs and missiles and a range of aircraft to deliver them.”
“Actually there are probably a dozen cameras filming everything they do, but the film will be classified and only high ranking officials would be able to release such footage… and to be honest… why would they? The aircraft is not for sale to anyone soon…”
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“LMFS wrote:
I am reading these days that the new weapons intended for the PAK-FA are getting ready and should be tested shortly.
Does anybody have a reasonably complete list of what (internal) weapons have been planned and what is their status of development? Has this information been disclosed? As far as I know this list would include:
Is anybody aware of the development of an equivalent to the Small Diameter Bomb? This would greatly increase the effectiveness of the aircraft to attack high value targets while in LO configuration (8 to 12 of those could probably be carried in the weapons bays).
Thanks,
I already posted on the thread about precision guided munition that they have grom 2 guided munition derived from kh 38. There is also the grom 1 which is a small cruise missile.”
“GarryB wrote:
they say Grom-2 is a 250 kg bomb, with 130 kg warhead
A 250kg bomb might have a warhead of 130kgs of HE… the rest of the mass will be the shell of the bomb and of course fragment material designed to be blown out by the explosion to cause damage to the target.
Just in comparison the OFAB-500U HE fragmentation bomb is nominally a 500kg bomb, though its actual weight is about 515kgs and includes a parachute retard system so it can be dropped from low altitude. It has a HE payload of about 230kgs.
Armour piercing bombs have less HE and more metal/structure weight…
Interesting, now that you mention it. I thought the concept “warhead” would include the fragmentation materials intended to damage the target and not only the explosive, but never looked into it in detail.
Nevertheless, these new “Grom” weapons and KAB bombs as well look not very well optimized for the PAK-FA to me: they would occupy the whole useful length of the bay (only 4 in total could be carried in LO mode) and pack (especially the KAB-250 and the new Groms) relatively little punch. In contrast, a SDB is 1800 x 190 mm with a weight of 129 kg and warhead of 93 kg (apart from up to some impressive 110 km reported range). Something like that would be one of the first weapons I would develop for the Su-57, together with the plane’s LO, kinetic performance, payload and persistence I can imagine they would make it extremely capable in SEAD/BAI roles. ”
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Jest takie powiedzenie; Rosja nigdy nie jest tak silna, na jaką wygląda, ani tak słaba, na jaką wygląda. Poza tym Cooper zapomniał dodać, że silniki są opalane węglem ekologicznym.
@Gaetano 100/100.A odnośnie silników,to wg. najnowszych źródeł są opalane mazutem.
The primary role of the Su-57 will be air superiority, so most of the first part of the conflict it will be air to air mainly.
“Only later in the war would it be used against enemy air defence and ground targets… and in those missions it will be less stealthy with external pods for target detection.
A standard weapon it would carry is the internal model of the AS-11 in an updated form which has a range in excess of 200km for dealing with enemy radar and major SAMs.
For use against other target they have a range of guided bombs and glide bombs and missiles and a range of aircraft to deliver them.”
“Actually there are probably a dozen cameras filming everything they do, but the film will be classified and only high ranking officials would be able to release such footage… and to be honest… why would they? The aircraft is not for sale to anyone soon…”
”
“LMFS wrote:
I am reading these days that the new weapons intended for the PAK-FA are getting ready and should be tested shortly.
Does anybody have a reasonably complete list of what (internal) weapons have been planned and what is their status of development? Has this information been disclosed? As far as I know this list would include:
> R-77 / R-77M / R-77PD
> R-37M (Izd. 810?)
> R-74M2
> Kh-59MK2
> Kh-58UShKE
> Kh-38M
> Kh-35UE
> FAB-500 / FAB-250
> PKB-500U
Is anybody aware of the development of an equivalent to the Small Diameter Bomb? This would greatly increase the effectiveness of the aircraft to attack high value targets while in LO configuration (8 to 12 of those could probably be carried in the weapons bays).
Thanks,
I already posted on the thread about precision guided munition that they have grom 2 guided munition derived from kh 38. There is also the grom 1 which is a small cruise missile.”
“GarryB wrote:
they say Grom-2 is a 250 kg bomb, with 130 kg warhead
A 250kg bomb might have a warhead of 130kgs of HE… the rest of the mass will be the shell of the bomb and of course fragment material designed to be blown out by the explosion to cause damage to the target.
Just in comparison the OFAB-500U HE fragmentation bomb is nominally a 500kg bomb, though its actual weight is about 515kgs and includes a parachute retard system so it can be dropped from low altitude. It has a HE payload of about 230kgs.
Armour piercing bombs have less HE and more metal/structure weight…
Interesting, now that you mention it. I thought the concept “warhead” would include the fragmentation materials intended to damage the target and not only the explosive, but never looked into it in detail.
Nevertheless, these new “Grom” weapons and KAB bombs as well look not very well optimized for the PAK-FA to me: they would occupy the whole useful length of the bay (only 4 in total could be carried in LO mode) and pack (especially the KAB-250 and the new Groms) relatively little punch. In contrast, a SDB is 1800 x 190 mm with a weight of 129 kg and warhead of 93 kg (apart from up to some impressive 110 km reported range). Something like that would be one of the first weapons I would develop for the Su-57, together with the plane’s LO, kinetic performance, payload and persistence I can imagine they would make it extremely capable in SEAD/BAI roles. ”
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